MAGA vs. the Teachings of Jesus: The Christian Nationalism Debate

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Published Mar 8, 2026

In this episode of The Bulletin, Mike Cosper speaks with New York Times and The Atlantic author Pete Wehner about his recent argument that “MAGA Jesus” reflects a growing divide between the political imagination of many believers and the teachings of Christ. As Evangelical support for Trump remains strong, Wehner situates the moment within the longer history of the religious right and the rise of evangelicals who embrace Donald Trump.

The conversation explores the ongoing Christian nationalism debate and asks: Is Trump compatible with Christian values? From the Supreme Court and evangelicals’ policy wins to questions of moral character in leadership, Cosper and Wehner examine the tension between political success and spiritual integrity. They also consider cognitive dissonance in politics, the pressures facing pastors to speak out about Trump, and whether Christians should criticize Trump in a time of deepening culture wars in America.

What does it mean to have faith under political pressure, and can the church can resist moral compromise in politics while remaining anchored in the way of Jesus?

Listen to the full episode here: https://play.megaphone.fm/tf1cuaubrjweyfagtpx3ha

00:00 – Is Trump Antithetical to Jesus?
00:43 – Wehner’s Background: From Reagan to Bush to The Atlantic
02:35 – The Atlantic Essay: “MAGA Jesus Is Not the Real Jesus”
03:22 – DHS Videos, Scripture, and Political Messaging
05:05 – Evangelical Loyalty: Why 80% Still Support Trump
06:32 – How Did We Get Here? Decades of Grievance and Party Alignment
09:20 – What Is “MAGA Jesus”?
11:15 – Hypocrisy or Something Deeper?
12:15 – From Reluctant to Enthusiastic Trump Support
15:10 – Tribalism, Disinformation, and Cognitive Dissonance
16:05 – Is There a Way Back? Operational Optimism
18:25 – Should Pastors Speak Out? Red Lines and Moral Courage